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Sarah Palin: Crosshairs Used By Democrats, Critics 'Not Going To Shut Me Up'

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Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, defending herself against criticism following the Tucson, Ariz., shootings, said Monday that she used the term "blood libel" to describe comments made by those who falsely tried to link conservatives to the assassination attempt against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

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Speaking out for the first time since she used the term in a video, Palin said on Fox's Sean Hannity show that the term referred to those "falsely accused of having blood on their hands."

Some Jewish groups strongly protested her use of the term, which historically was used to accuse Jews of using blood of Christians in religious rituals.

"I think the critics again were using anything that they could gather out of that statement," she said. "You can spin up anything out of anybody's statements that are released and use them against the person who is making the statement."

  • 14 votes
#1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:50 AM EST
StevG-144

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is standing on quick sand, and doesn't even know it, and is ever so slowly sinking, and their will come a time that she sinks so low , she won't even be considered, for a candidate for President. She made the hole and filled it up all by herself, and then went and stood in it all by herself, no one else did this to her, she did it all by herself

  • 68 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:00 AM EST
Zoolopolis

Whines the arsonist, after the house burns down.

  • 59 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:08 AM EST
NavChief57

Good point Steve only instead of sand she is filling it with elephant @!$%#!

  • 43 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:12 AM EST
StevG-144

What away to go NavChief, drowning in elephant POOP.

  • 25 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:16 AM EST
Zoolopolis

Don't cry for me Republicans.

The truth is I'll never leave you...

I hope she sticks around like a lead albatross around the neck of the GOP.

We should vote for her in open primaries. Obama would take her down like The Rock.

  • 49 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:17 AM EST
Leah-432313

Saw this quote by another viner in reference to a similar article:

"Sarah Palin has become the Paris Hilton of politics - except without the porn video". 'Nuff said.

  • 42 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:22 AM EST
GrayHouse

Dear Sarah, the last thing the Democrats and critics want is for you to shut up. Spew forth sister $arah.

  • 43 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:30 AM EST
reddirthippy

"I think the critics again were using anything that they could gather out of that statement," she said. "You can spin up anything out of anybody's statements that are released and use them against the person who is making the statement."

In inside view to Palin's thinking and perfect description of her tactics from death panels, paling around with terrorist, to blood libel. But she won't shut up spinning til she doesn't know east from west.

  • 31 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:32 AM EST
Idj

Way to go Sarah. Point those DIRTY FINGERS. And like DRACULAR, mirrors are your... enemy; Blood Libel indeed! But you better hurry though,...the SUN is rising!

Strange to know you can see Russia from your front porch, but can't see the image in the mirror! Wink,Wink...

  • 28 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:42 AM EST
say what??

Palin said her political action committee's use of crosshairs to identify targeted congressional districts for Republican pickups was not original ...

Well, now I'm really confused. I thought an aide said last week it was surveyor marks and not gun sight crosshairs. Now it looks like it's back to gun sight crosshairs.

"You can spin up anything out of anybody's statements that are released and use them against the person who is making the statement."

Mrs. Palin must be getting dizzy from spinning her own spin.

  • 39 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:05 AM EST
Nick46

Sarah is correct. People can spin candy cotton and have it come out looking like @!$%#.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:06 AM EST
Davy-755715

Perhaps, Nick, but when you spin @!$%# to begin with, it not only looks like it, but the smell...

  • 24 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:20 AM EST
AL-1735815

Palin's comment "They won't shut me up" has brought a lot of relief to Comedy Central, Saturday Night Live, and late night talk show hosts.

  • 34 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:30 AM EST
henry1966

Maybe Justin Bieber can make a song out of it.

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:47 AM EST
Ripley8

"They won't shut me up"

dems don't want her too ! she does us a favor !

her handlers however feel differently.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone. She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else. Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom." ―an anonymous McCain adviser complaining to CNN about Palin going off-script

"A whack job." ―a top McCain adviser describing Palin, one-upping the McCain adviser who called her a "diva"

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?" ―Alaska State Senate President Lyda Green, who is a Republican

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party." ―conservative columnist David Brooks

"If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself. If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she's a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true." ―conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, writing in National Review

"This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. … On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity." ―conservative writer Christopher Hitchens

  • 32 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:49 AM EST
Davy-755715

"If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself..."

Priceless. But Kathleen Parker (as well as all the others above) is just being vindictive, right, $arah?

  • 18 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:16 AM EST
NativeAmerican-1289371

Former Quitter Governor Palin: You are quite correct. No one can shut you up but I regret to inform you that no one has to listen to you Princess Dumbass of the North. Rave on ya rabid female dog!

  • 26 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:20 AM EST
RI Mom

I watched the Hannity "fair & balanced"...but remarkably sanitized interview.

While Palin defended cross-hairs because Dems used bulls-eyes; Hannity failed to ask her WHY she targeted the Healthcare supporters with a list of specific names.

Palin's used the words "reload", "aim" and "fire" on her "hit list" post on Facebook last March 2010.

On Twitter: "Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page."

Not so surprisingly, that part of Palin's March 2010 objective was never mentioned. Careful editing by Hannity allowed Palin to reinvent the actual facts.

  • 26 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:29 AM EST
jmorris

Not so surprisingly, that part of Palin's March 2010 objective was never mentioned. Careful editing by Hannity allowed Palin to reinvent the actual facts.

And that's *exactly* why her only "media" appearance so far has been on Hannity's show. She knew that pussycat Hannity would not ask her any hard questions, but just feed lines to her.

Hannity knows as well as anyone in America what Palin did, and when and why she did it. Hell, he probably had her on his show right after she first posted the map.

  • 21 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:40 AM EST
Teeminimartunis

I just wish people would ignore her, she lives for the negative . She needs so desperately to be in the spotlight, and everyone keeps giving her exactly what she wants. The woman has the ability to bring out the worst in people, and, unfortunately, she has a plethora of willing subscibers. That network smartly uses her as a tool to fan the fire. This is exactly NOT the way to cure a spoiled child.

  • 10 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:55 AM EST
RI Mom

It wasn't just a targeted district...it was specific targeted NAMES.

  • 21 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:55 AM EST
hard2port

The buzzards of the GOP are circling over the teabag princess and she is just now realizing it. Let the feast begin.

  • 16 votes
#1.22 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:11 AM EST
sms29s66

I'd like to see her submit to a live interview from a real news source who would ask her point blank whether she knew the origin of the phrase "blood libel." And if/when she answers "yes" follow up by asking her why she would use such a "loaded" phrase when the intended victim is a Jew. Because I don't think she could politically survive such an exchange, I also think she will not be a serious contended for the Republican nomination. She has been able to control the narrative since 2008 because she was no longer running for office and can pick her own venues. That would no longer be the case. Rivals in her own party will never let her get over this. They will shut her up in the end.

  • 12 votes
#1.23 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:16 AM EST
Canadian Dave

Oh....SHUT UP!

  • 8 votes
#1.24 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:25 AM EST
Vooda

When Pitiful Palin responds to the accusations that she is responsible for the attack on Rep. Gabby Gifford she comes across as cold, mean-spirited, and only concerned about her image.

Someone sent me this funny youtube video you may enjoy/cringe and scratch your head that there really are people out there like this...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvkVlhCAU

  • 13 votes
#1.25 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:30 AM EST
SH-2000

The worst thing to happen to Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin; she is her own worst enemy. Sad in a ironic way that she is oblivious to it.

  • 16 votes
#1.26 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST
DEBEKI

Vooda

LOL - thanks for the link...Glory, Glory Halelujah!!!!

Isn't that guy singing from Sarah's Husband Sedition Party?

I think I recognize him and the women singing - They want to secede from the United States - I say, " See ya, don't want to be ya, hope the door hits you where the spirits that be split ya on the way out that door."

I don't mean for Alaska to secede - just them and they can take the Palins with them...I'm sure there is an Island that Sarah can see from her front porch that they can all move to.

  • 10 votes
#1.27 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:49 AM EST
henry1966

The worst thing to happen to Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin; she is her own worst enemy.

Now let someone tell her that.

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:50 AM EST
SH-2000

Hi Henry,

Even if we do tell her that she will still spew garbage because unfortunately there is a market for nearly everything in this country including idiocy. Being stupid for a living pay's her well.

  • 9 votes
#1.29 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:54 AM EST
AZPADDY

What a legacy these conservative leaders make for themselves.

Reagan: Out of touch liar.

GWB: Worst...President...Ever.

Boehner: Drunken idealogue.

Palin: Divisiveness, hate and ignorance all in one screechy package.

This is the legacy the G.O.P. has managed to craft with no outside help. How proud they must be!

  • 22 votes
#1.30 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:55 AM EST
Craig Cobb

Let's not forget that Boehner has gone on more corporate-lobbyist-sponsored golf trips that any other politician!

  • 18 votes
#1.31 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:01 PM EST
SH-2000

@AZpaddy

...and to think what could be the next generation of GOP "leadership"; seriously thinking about it sends shivers up my spine. Could it get worse than Palin? I'm hoping it goes in another direction and someone on the right is smart enough to identify the void with some thoughtful & fair GOP leadership, someone that they can be legitimately proud of. It would really be great for us on all sides to level the playing field and be able to reach balanced compromises. That would be true progress we would all appreciate.

  • 9 votes
#1.32 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:02 PM EST
AZPADDY

SH-2000 / Craig Cobb

This period in our political history will be forever known as the times when the G.O.P. was led by the lowest common denominators.

You have to believe people like Barry Goldwater, Eisenhower, and other Republicans of respectability would be heartbroken by the "leadership" of today's G.O.P.

The 2012 elections are looking pretty damned good for Democrats these days.

  • 9 votes
#1.33 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:38 PM EST
QuiteContrary-1278233

Reddirthippy:

But she won't shut up spinning til she doesn't know east from west.

She is already there, she has proved her directional ineptitude on her now-canceled TV show! Too darn bad she just didn't follow her 'instincts' kept on going 'till she ended up in the ocean- a good, cold dunking may have done her some good!

  • 9 votes
#1.34 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:39 PM EST
JohnRussell

I'd like to see her submit to a live interview from a real news source who would ask her point blank whether she knew the origin of the phrase "blood libel." And if/when she answers "yes" follow up by asking her why she would use such a "loaded" phrase when the intended victim is a Jew.

This is an example of the sloppy thinking often used by those that require themselves to attack Sarah Palin at every turn.

As Alan Dershowitz said, the fact that a couple victims of the shooting were Jewish, ( or for that matter that a Jewish person was a 'target' of the map), is irrelevant. The 'blood libel' in the Palin comment refers SPECIFICALLY to the political right being victimized by the mainstream media and the social media in the accusatory aftermath of the shooting.

In that context, Giffords is not the victim of the 'blood libel', thus her Jewish heritage is irrelevant. For some reason (blind hatred), a lot of you don't get this.

  • 6 votes
#1.35 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:16 PM EST
Nick46

It wasn't just a targeted district...it was specific targeted NAMES.

People use this terminology all the time. I've got my sights on you, you're my next target, I'll blow you out of the water, etc. but they don't mean I'll kill someone.

Sicko minds.

  • 2 votes
#1.36 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:18 PM EST
SH-2000

No they don't mean it Nick I agree BUT they do not have a national stage where 300 plus million people plus the rest of the world are hearing them. The mistake is in the assumption that there is not a person who is ill or a druggie within those millions, billions of people that hear it & might take it literally. It's a game only a fool would play or someone who just dosen't give a damn what the stakes are. Which is Palin? A fool or someone who dosen't give a damn? That's the question we are all wondering. You shouldn't defend that. Free speech yes but be responsible.

  • 14 votes
#1.37 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:29 PM EST
Fred Evil

That she won't shut up won't force anyone to START listening....!

  • 7 votes
#1.38 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:35 PM EST
VerbalBarb

I just wish people would ignore her,

I don't see that happening - people just can't seem to ignore trainwrecks, even when they're ongoing.

I made the mistake of posting a short comment on an msnbc.com article about Palin's talking about why she was talking about blood libel. (Apologies to anyone who had that article show up on their tracker because I commented there - I don't know what I was thinging...) When I signed on this morning, there were 3,528 new comments on that article, which I immediately quite tracking.

No one is going to ignore her, I'm afraid.

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:35 PM EST
VerbalBarb

The 'blood libel' in the Palin comment refers SPECIFICALLY to the political right being victimized by the mainstream media and the social media in the accusatory aftermath of the shooting.

"Blood libel" refers to the accusation of Jews murdering Christian children in order to use their blood. No one accused Palin of murdering anyone, so her use of "blood libel" is, as usual for her and her handlers, over the top. People saying that they think gun-related violent rhetoric was involved in causing a loony to go shoot people is simply not the same as accusing someone of committing murders themselves.

I'm surprised Palin hasn't yet issed a video crying that she's been "crucified", since she loves to overreach when it comes to her victimhood.

  • 15 votes
#1.40 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:51 PM EST
JohnRussell

You are rewriting recent history. Many people, especially online, said Palin's map led to these shootings. The NY Daily news had a headline which read 'There is blood on Palin's hands'. That is very specific.

  • 4 votes
#1.41 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:02 PM EST
VerbalBarb

You are rewriting recent history. Many people, especially online, said Palin's map led to these shootings.

You didn't understand what I said.

Saying that something someone did led to shootings is not the same as accusing someone of doing the shootings themselves.

"Blood libel" refers to people being accused of murder...not being accused of their talk leading others to commit murder. No one accused Palin of murdering anyone (the "blood on her hands" comment was regarding rhetoric).

  • 9 votes
#1.42 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:09 PM EST
Tappy McWidestance

Sarah Palin has become the Paris Hilton of politics - except without the porn video.

But who could ever forget Who's Nailin' Paylin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nailin'_Palin

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:09 PM EST
JohnRussell

"Blood libel" refers to people being accused of murder...not being accused of their talk leading others to commit murder. No one accused Palin of murdering anyone (the "blood on her hands" comment was regarding rhetoric).

I think if millions of people are spreading the implication that you are 'responsible' for a mass shooting, and you feel you are innocent, the term is perfectly acceptable. Get over it.

A number of other people in the media have used the term without referring to 'actual' murder. I assume you have complained about all or some of them also.

Sure you did.

  • 4 votes
#1.44 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:26 PM EST
800 lb. gorilla

In that context, Giffords is not the victim of the 'blood libel', thus her Jewish heritage is irrelevant. For some reason (blind hatred), a lot of you don't get this.

it is irrelevant only if you can not show some common decency for a victim of a heinous attack. it is relevant because she was saying that there was this "blood libel" against her in the aftermath of an attack against a person of the jewish faith.

it is funny that she has said that she has denounced violence over and over in her latest statement, but one has a hard time finding more than a few mentions of this anywhere. has she really done this, and if so, when and where?

i did find this link, but it really doesn't make her look good. palin denounces violence

  • 9 votes
#1.45 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST
devilsadvocates

$arah, the media whore is our train wreck and we all KNOW how Americans LOVE to watch train wrecks. It holds some sort of unholy fascination. failin seems so obsessed with having the last word and playing the victim itis truly amazing. If she didn't make me so nauseated, I would see the fun in her spin and self promoting victim-hood. The more she rants and raves...the more people have the opportunity to see her at her right-trash best and be disgusted like the rest of us!

  • 5 votes
#1.46 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:42 PM EST
VerbalBarb

Get over it.

Sorry, but the country's already been dumbed down too much by people wanting people to "get over" ignorance and stupidity.

A number of other people in the media have used the term without referring to 'actual' murder.

Well, they're wrong, too.

  • 9 votes
#1.47 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST
Stop the ignorance.

After various discussions with friends on both sides of the aisle, here's what I've come to and what I think the problem is with the whole ramped up rhetoric thing.

Since the shooting of Rep. Giffords and six others in Tucson, Arizona there has been quite a bit of attention given to the heated rhetoric in the public discourse. Many, many people tend to believe there is a causal link between heated rhetoric and violent action despite the fact that any direct evidence of that link is tenuous. While each side has insisted that "they do it too" there have been many voices both right and left that have called for moderation.

IMO here's the problem:

If you listen to the video that Jared Loughner made and read some of his postings you can clearly hear that the guy is imbalanced, to put it lightly. He rambles on about lack of "Constitutional authority" regarding this and that, just watching and listening to the video would probably convince most people that this guy is indeed a couple bricks shy of a full load.

My problem with it is this:

His ramblings are only crazy in light of the fact that he went out and shot up a "meet your local representative" gathering and killed six people. Absent the gun violence he's not saying anything that you can't or didn't hear during the last election cycle by those on the right fringe. There were plenty of cries of "Constitutional abuse" by people that didn't understand what the hell they were talking about but do we think they're crazy too? Crazy enough to take up arms to enforce their ill gotten understanding of "Constitutional issues"??

After all, it was none other than Glenn Beck that rambled on about FEMA camps and the "New World Order" BS. During the last campaign cycle you saw TP idiots dressed up as silver Statue of Libery's while promoting their ill gotten views of socialism, communism, and marxism. Victim Sarah and Michelle Bachmann have equally wacky statements in the press but no one is calling for their mental evaluations.

So, if we take stock of all the wacky things that have been said in public by the right fringe, how is Jared Loughner's diatribe so unique?

The answer is, it isn't. He's just another crazy who's spouting off about imaginary BS that he gets from right wing cable/TV/radio news. Jared Loughner is indeed crazy, the problem is, he and a vast number of the extreme right are reading off the same page!

  • 11 votes
#1.48 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:55 PM EST
Amanda Blue

Poor Sarah....wah its all about me, wah wah wah.

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:54 PM EST
Ix chel

No one accused her of murdering children in the name of doing a Christian ritual which is what Blood libel is just using the word Jew instead. In fact, it is sick she did use this term because it was Christians that used this type of accusation against Jewish people.

  • 5 votes
#1.50 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:30 PM EST
SeniorTokarev

Sun Jan 9,2011 11:08 AM ,"I may comment on the Vine on other areas that interest me,but I will no longer be a part of the ridiculous political rhetoric here on the Vine." Frankly NavCheif57,Im a little disapointed in you.Did I miss something?Or did you forget about that article you posted,where you so graciously accepted all the condolences of all those Viners for the hard way you were taking the news of the shooting in Tucson,and then come on here slinging elephant @!$%# with the best of em?Good God man!Its only been ten days!

  • 1 vote
#1.51 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:58 PM EST
PoliticoMan-1635309

The more she opens her own mouth, continue to prove she has no idea what she is talking about, is not ready for prime time, eventually the most hardened supporter will realize this woman is a loser and walk away, then Ms. Palin will be correct, her critics did not shut her up, she will perform that feat all by herself... I conclude, by 2012 Ms Palin will not be a serious contender.... but a footnote....

  • 3 votes
#1.52 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:46 PM EST
SeniorTokarev

PoliticoMa,an astute observation of a widely spread,unfounded attempt at culling Palin from the herd of contenders for Obamas throne.Opps,scratch that!I meant chair in the Whitehouse.Bunch a rabid left spin doctors almost got to me!

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:09 AM EST
Larry-1857406

Palin, a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2012, said the criticism won't stop her from speaking out

Damn, Palin. What will it take to shut you up?

  • 3 votes
#1.54 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:44 AM EST
NavChief57

ST - what can I say, Palin brings out the worst in me and I slipped in my program ;-)

  • 5 votes
#1.55 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:27 AM EST
The Moonbat Detective

dems don't want her too !

You guys have to get your stories straight. On other posts libs are pissed that she just won't go away and then they show up here and say they want her to keep talking. Puhleaze get it together liberals. Do you want her to keep talking or do you want her to go away? All kidding aside, what is it you truly wish for because all this double talk makes my head spin.

  • 3 votes
#1.56 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:35 AM EST
GrayHouse

Well Moonbat, I think a lot of your question has to do with tolerance abilities. I tend to lean heavily to the liberal side of the fence, and have a high Palin-stupidity-tolerance level. I want Palin to gush with her pearls that she thinks have populist appeal.

Others on the liberal side of the fence have a low tolerance for Palin's tripe though and have reached their maximum level for hearing stupidity with the guise of common sense. They wish for nothing more than for Palin to STFU.

I am beginning to wonder now though whether Palin's stupidity may actually start working to the GOP's favor. As was noted yesterday she's beginning to make Newt Gingrich look like a reasonable and rational thinker by comparison.

Puhleaze get it together liberals.

That's one of the pleasant things I like about liberals. There is an abundance of independent thought. Liberals don't listen to a talk radio host, or Fox News and Palin, to decide what the lock-step cohesive united thought is. Liberals tend to actually think for themselves and will openly disagree with other liberals — something conservatives seem to be incapable of doing.

  • 3 votes
#1.57 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:57 AM EST
jabbausaf

You guys have to get your stories straight. On other posts libs are pissed that she just won't go away and then they show up here and say they want her to keep talking. Puhleaze get it together liberals. Do you want her to keep talking or do you want her to go away? All kidding aside, what is it you truly wish for because all this double talk makes my head spin.

Like Grayhouse says, we're not a homogeneous body. There is no King of Liberals who hands down proclamations and talking points. We don't get all our information from the same source, and we don't all have the same reaction to it. Liberals are different, in that way, from other political groups.

It's both a strength and a weakness, trying to get a group of liberals to agree on something is a lot like herding cats. We're not able to shut off our critical thinking, we tend to question everything.

  • 2 votes
#1.58 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:07 AM EST
The Moonbat Detective

That's one of the pleasant things I like about liberals. There is an abundance of independent thought.

But why the double talk? I am specifically referring to liberals who on one post tell her to STFU and on another one they gleefully want her to keep talking. WTF? And as for independent thought you must be joking. As soon as Liberal A (fill in name) says "todays lib talking point is right wing talk radio is bad", the enitre seedy liberal underbelly of America now sings that song.

  • 3 votes
#1.59 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:25 AM EST
jabbausaf

I am specifically referring to liberals who on one post tell her to STFU and on another one they gleefully want her to keep talking.

Who? Examples?

As soon as Liberal A (fill in name) says "todays lib talking point is right wing talk radio is bad", the enitre seedy liberal underbelly of America now sings that song.

No, we really don't. But if you like, I'll put the mirror down so you stop seeing yourself in it.

  • 3 votes
#1.60 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:07 PM EST
SeniorTokarev

At least youre honest about it NavChief ; )

  • 1 vote
#1.61 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:52 PM EST
The Moonbat Detective

No, we really don't.

Yes you do. Denial much?

  • 1 vote
#1.62 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:55 PM EST
NavChief57

I try to be. My honest intentions were to stay away from the politics for awhile, but I guess I'm addicted and keep getting drawn back into it. Sad. Sigh!

Now, OK she won't shut the @!$%# up, can someone at least throw her a damn Tic-Tac?

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:59 PM EST
SeniorTokarev

All right NavChief57,now that the situation has been identified,I think you need put it squarely in the crosshairs,hold steady,and squeeze off a few............Sarah Palin addicts anonymous meetings.I hope you blow it right out of the water!Good luck! : )

  • 1 vote
#1.64 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:24 PM EST
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Happily BLUE in Ohio

Sarah Failin':

"They're not going to shut me up."

Heaven knows that's impossible, but one can only hope that her own stupidity will do so. So far, we haven't seen the depths of that stupidity.

  • 28 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:25 AM EST
jmorris

Who want's to shut her up? As a liberal-leaning Democrat I just love it when Palin makes any kind of statement, twit, or FB posting. Nothing makes her look more stupid then her opening her mouth.

I think the Tea Party and the GOP should start putting her in commercials for *every* Republican candidate in 2012. I think she should be the Republican Candidate for President in 2012. Who needs Karl Rove when you have the "star power" of Sarah Palin!

As a Democrat I can't think of a better spokesperson for the Republican Party than Sarah Palin. I hope she stays around for Hillary's campaign in 2016!

  • 33 votes
#2.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:45 AM EST
Happily BLUE in Ohio

jmorris, you are absolutely, totally correct! while I am personally tired of her ignorance, I do hope she stays around as long as possible.

And I am sure we still have not seen the depths of her stupidity because it gets deeper with each public comment she makes.

  • 13 votes
#2.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:46 AM EST
Ix chel

Let her keep running her mouth; the more she runs it the more often she puts her foot in that big yap of hers..

  • 9 votes
#2.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:34 PM EST
QuiteContrary-1278233

I did enjoy a couple of Palin-free days of late (obviously, thinking fast in not in her skill-set!) but now she's back and in fine form once she has convinced herself that she is, once again, the victim here- and that we have all forgotten about CROSSHAIR BEAR! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha...! Too damn funny- I'm going to print t-shirts- I can't stand it!

  • 7 votes
#2.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:51 PM EST
QuiteContrary-1278233

Vooda- I just back-tracked and checked out your link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvkVlhCAU

Oh my God, I just spewed soda on my keyboard! That was just too damn funny "She has the wisdom to walk through doors"? I have this mind picture of a wind up Palin bouncing off of door-jams, while doggedly attempting to accomplish a task that all non-sentient critters can master without any more inducement than a piece of cheese! And you gotta love that cold day in Hell prophesy concerning her triumphant march into DC! This is a keeper!

  • 10 votes
#2.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:07 PM EST
SH-2000

They got one line right "when she gets to Washington it will be as cold as hell". Yup, a cold day in Hell is when she'll get elected.

  • 10 votes
#2.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:32 PM EST
pinkcap

Vooda

Thanks for the link to the video. It was funny, but in a way, it was also scary to see people go to these lengths to pay homage to this woman. It just proves that Sarah can incite people do crazy things.

  • 5 votes
#2.7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST
jabbausaf

Scary thing was when they were talking about her "hunting skunk"... skunks are both black and white. Hmm. I'm sure that's not code for anything.

  • 6 votes
#2.8 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:37 PM EST
NavChief57

Catchy tune and that hot mama on backup vocals just does it for me!

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:34 AM EST
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Tom-VermillionOhio

Does the GOP now think it's okay for folks to bring high power firearms to THEIR compaign and public speaking engagements and events?

Note: This is an example of a comment that I would NOT have used until I've heard the GOP leadership defending their vitriolic and imflammatory rhetoric since the horrible incident in Arizona.

Note: I also toned down the wording as well. ('high power firearms' was something else).

  • 24 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:48 AM EST
Studiusbagus

So, did any of the Democrat maps show the image of the Republican when you roll over the crosshairs? Or did it deal with the district or state?

Can't shoot a state Sarah.....

  • 25 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:58 AM EST
Ronin-2

No, but you can blow it up.

Cross hairs are used for a wide variety of targeting mechanisms.

And no, I am not stating the Dems using them were targeting states, cities, etc to encourage a terrorist strike; anymore than the Palin was targeting people to encourage their assasination.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:35 AM EST
AZPADDY

Sarah Palin says she won't shut up?

Isn't that exactly the kind of rhetoric Gabrielle Giffords warned about after having her name "targeted" by rifle scope crosshairs?

Maybe someone should point out to Palin that Gabrielle Giffords can't speak (yet), but Sarah Palin can. If Gabrielle Giffords were as uncaring and selfish as Sarah Palin, she'd be tweeting asap about how the right tried to "shut her up". Gabrielle Giffords will never go there. She was, is, and always will be far better than Sarah Palin.

Ronin #4.1: So...what do you think the rifle scope crosshairs represented? An attempt at civil discourse?

  • 10 votes
#4.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:05 PM EST
Ronin-2

If you want to claim that Palins crosshairs mean she wanted to encourage people to assisnate these people; well then the targets the Dems used mean they wanted to encourage people to take out (blow up, shoot up, destroy) these places/people that were behind them? We all know that targets are to be taken out.

Did Palin's web site say- "Here is your target- take them down anyway you can?" Or did it show what these peoples' voting records were, and why you should be voting against them? Just like the Dems web sites? Would it have been any better if she used the same target system the Dems sites did?

Sometimes you have to draw the distinction between figurative and literal.

Obviously most people on the Vine can't.

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:31 PM EST
AZPADDY

Ronin

I'll be more than happy to make this distinction based on actual events / facts:

Gabrielle Giffords recieved death threats as well as attacks on her office as were the other three AZ. "targets" on Sarah Palin's map of targets. All three Democrats.

Gabrielle Giffords held a "townhall" meeting in the summer of 09' and a Tea Party activist had a loaded pistol fall out of his pocket.

Gabrielle Giffords lies in the hospital struggling to recover from a gunshot wound to the head administered by a total stranger.

Now.....can you point to any similar incidents committed against a Republican lawmaker in the Sarah Palin era?

I'll save you some time: No...you can't.

  • 10 votes
#4.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:31 PM EST
Ronin-2

Ok prove any of those threats, or attacks, had anything to do with Palin, anything she said, or her web site.

Oh wait, you can't.

Never let a little thing like proof get in the way of a good witch hunt right?

I would never vote for Palin; and don't even find her that good of an "entertainer"; but, at the rate the Dems are demonizing her it will not be surprising when some tries to assasinate her. I mean she is the root of all evil- the cause of all angst. On the same level as Hitler according to some Viners.

  • 3 votes
#4.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:41 PM EST
AZPADDY

Ronin

Here's a quote from a Gifford's spokesperson after the "townhall" event in the summer of 09' where someone in the audience dropped a pistol. "We have never felt the need before to notify law enforcement when we hold these events," spokesman C.J. Karamargin told Arizona media at the time." Ironic words indeed.

You may remember these "townhall" events. They were stocked with Tea Party activists there solely to disrupt the Democratic lawmaker's meetings. I say that because ample evidence exists to support that. That, and not one Republican had their "townhall" meetings disrupted.

BTW.....there never is direct proof that an assassination attempt on a politician is due to the hate-speech rhetoric fron the unholy chorus of the right.

  • 8 votes
#4.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:46 PM EST
800 lb. gorilla

ronin

and if someone does try to assassinate her, or they are successful, then some of those on the right will cry foul, just as is being done now. should someone shoot her? no, but i am kind of ambivalent at this point, which is cool, as i use sarah palin as my mentor, and she has been quite ambivalent about the use of violent imagery and language. i do not hold her responsible for the shooting, but i do hold her responsible for using violent rhetoric, for she has done so. it might be considered ironic if she gets shot by someone. for the sake of goodness and our country, i hope that she does not get shot, for it seems that it will only cause tensions to rise, and of course, then she would be a martyr. yikes!

  • 6 votes
#4.7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:48 PM EST
AZPADDY

800 lb. Gorilla

You may be on to something. I wouldn't put it past Sarah Palin to suffer a "near miss" gunshot wound from a "suspected assassin" in the next oh...18 months or so.

We're already hearing how death threats (unsubstantiated) have risen to "unprecedented levels" against her - from her staff, of course.

  • 8 votes
#4.8 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:01 PM EST
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3sheets2thewind

Am I the one who was surprised that our dear Sarah can read a map?

She should speak to her hearts delight, everyone should bring guns to HER speaking engagements and we shall see how long that would last before she complains.

  • 17 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:11 AM EST
AZPADDY

Do you for a minute think that any person with a rifle would be allowed at any Palin event?

I wish someone would try it, "tree of liberty" sign and all. The hypocrisy of the right would be on display for the world to see.

  • 10 votes
#5.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:09 PM EST
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Michael Kervin

MSNBC is following the liberal NY Times and now Washington Post in doing what they can to demonize the leading media outlet Fox News and they're daily show line. Reason being, they can't stay with the fair and balanced forums taking place. When you have Mika B and Arrianna Huffington spewing liberal googoo gaga without facts and following Georgie Boy Socialist Soros around smelling wind from his backside, that's what you get - bad wind. Joe Scarbrough is no Conservative Republican - he's now a Democrat because he's afraid he'll get suspended again or lose his show. Oberman needs to find a weathercast in Sioux Falls South Dakota cause no one watches that moron, and Rachel Maddow needs to cry to Management to get solid folks with solid views before her so her ratings could climb - she's the only one who does her homework, unlike the rest

    Reply#6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:35 AM EST
    AlphaDogReporter

    Obviously you didn't hear the Scarborough group this morning defending the GOP rhetoric and Sarah Palin.

    • 19 votes
    #6.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:45 AM EST
    blaze1024

    doing what they can to demonize the leading media outlet Fox News

    Fox news is not a legitimate new organization.

    According to Fox itself, Fox News is not a legitimate new organization. Fox news is part of Fox entertainment and It's strictly an entertainment venue and under no obligation to report facts accurately or tell the truth. At least thats what they said in court when they were sued by former on air celebrities ( news anchors in real news) who were fired for refusing to lie on the air.

    • 25 votes
    #6.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:50 AM EST
    Kareem in my Coffee

    ADR: that would mean they would need to leave the FAUX channel....don't be silly..

    • 6 votes
    #6.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:25 AM EST
    jmorris

    blaze1024

    doing what they can to demonize the leading media outlet Fox News

    Fox news is not a legitimate new organization.

    Notice he *didn't* say "news outlet" he said "media outlet". Even FOX's supporters are admitting that FOX News isn't News, but just entertainment for right-wing dupes.

    • 17 votes
    #6.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:28 AM EST
    Idj

    Yeah, Faux News viewers are like TODDLERS on Christmas Eve; all hyped up about Santa coming down the chimney with all kinds of goodies for them. Now this behavior is fine for........TODDLERS!

    • 13 votes
    #6.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:54 AM EST
    demmywemmy

    Obviously you didn't hear the Scarborough group this morning defending the GOP rhetoric and Sarah Palin.

    Defending?! Not what I heard.

    Michael, Joe is no democrat by any stretch. Just because he doesn't pass the new fringe purity test says more about the right than Joe.

    • 6 votes
    #6.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:28 AM EST
    trm2008

    I didn't hear Joe defending the hate speech either.

    • 5 votes
    #6.7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 PM EST
    SH-2000

    Mika B???

    Lol, thats liberal to you? Her job is to basically keep Joe & the conversation on track, all she does 99.9% of the time is back Joe up.

    • 4 votes
    #6.8 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:12 PM EST
    stormrider2364-910373

    I watch Obermann just to see what the idiot has to say today!

    • 2 votes
    #6.9 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:30 PM EST
    Reply
    downhillracer

    Palin could careless.

    No matter what Palin says on Hannity tonight it is meaningless.Congresswoman Gifford told her that targeting her with rifle target signsmade her feel threatened and it would cause consequences. It means nothingthat there is no direct connection with the shooter and Palin, the factthat it made the congresswoman nervous should have been enough for Palinto apologize. She did not, so whatever she says now means nothing 6 aredead . Palin could have taken the high road before this happened but NOshe could care less what Gifford thought or felt. Whatever she now says isto cover her ass.
    
    

    • 20 votes
    Reply#7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:45 AM EST
    reddirthippy
    Palinto apologize.

    For a narcissist lilke Palin that is impossible.

    • 13 votes
    #7.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:48 AM EST
    henry1966

    I think she could have invented narcissism.

    • 13 votes
    #7.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:48 AM EST
    SH-2000

    The ancient Greeks would have written a powerful analogy about her. Sarah daughter of Narcissus and Pandora.

    • 12 votes
    #7.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:41 AM EST
    Reply
    Kareem in my Coffee

    There's isn't a Liberal/Progressive in the country who wants Sarah to stop spewing. Keep it up.

    Now your fellow gop members, that might be another story.

    Run Sarah Run!!!!!

    • 14 votes
    Reply#8 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:20 AM EST
    trm2008

    Typical exaggerated rhetoric by Palin. No one is asking anyone to give up the debate--just do away with the lies, hate speech, and violent imagery. I can understand Palin's point though. She is unable to have a conversation with any substance because she is truly ignorant about policy etc. She has to resort to meaningless hyperbole to maintain her base.

    • 26 votes
    Reply#9 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:34 AM EST
    3sheets2thewind

    No one is asking anyone to give up the debate--just do away with the lies, hate speech, and violent imagery.

    She doesn't have any thing else in her arsenal of rhetoric.

    What else can she really talk about except moose burger recipes and how to do some fancy pageant walking?

    • 15 votes
    #9.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:18 AM EST
    AZPADDY

    3sheets

    You're exactly right when you say "She dosn't have anything else in her arsenal of rhetoric".

    When the right wing universe and in particular, Sarah Palin, says that their hateful diatribes and rhetoric have nothing to do with the violence we've been witnessing, you have to ask: What is it that they've been able to market and profit tremendously by, if it isn't hateful diatribe?

    Look at any of the purveyors of hate and diviseveness:

    Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Malkin, Hannity, that woman that looks like Tom Petty in drag, Michelle Bachmann, Sharon Angle, etc. etc. etc..

    Their books, and public events are all hate-speech based, designed and carefull choreographed to appeal to the prejudice and hatred their followers harbor in their hearts. Of course their hate-speech has effects. Why else do they practice it?

    • 6 votes
    #9.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:23 PM EST
    TheJonesGirl

    If words are meaningless, why is Palin so upset at the words of her critics?

    • 9 votes
    #9.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:55 PM EST
    QuiteContrary-1278233

    AZPADDY: Don't forget the words of Michelle "Malcontent" Malkin for your list, she is the sole reason why I stopped buying my local paper six years ago. That hateful wench has never met a social program that she didn't want to kill, nor a person in need that she didn't want to kick while they were down!

    • 4 votes
    #9.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:27 PM EST
    AZPADDY

    Q.C.

    Have you noticed that Michelle Malkin's eyes are usually opened so wide that you can see the total pupil...the whites totally surrounding them?

    I've read somewhere that is a sign of hysteria. Madness. Michelle Bachmann has the same manifestation.

    Malkin is a regular feature in your local paper? You have my sympathy, Q.C. What a poor choice from your paper.

    • 4 votes
    #9.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:22 PM EST
    QuiteContrary-1278233

    I have noticed that attribute- a lot like a filly who hears a rattlesnake! But, I think I'll just have to move! I actually did that once, I lived in Manchester, NH when Nackey Loeb ran the Union Leader- after reading that GOP rag, I didn't need coffee to wake me up in the morning, I was fully alert and mad as Hell- so I moved to Portsmouth!

    • 2 votes
    #9.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:59 PM EST
    AZPADDY

    Here in Az. we have basically one "Newspaper of record", and that is 'The Arizona Republic" (Originally the Arizona "Republican").

    It really is little more than a Republican newsletter, in that the editorial board endorsed Ben Quayle - Dan's son - a totally unqualified lighteweight Frat-boy for Senator....and he won!!

    Since it's inception, AZ. was a Democratic stronghold, and the paper had a sister publication "The Phoenix Gazette" that was somewhat more nuetral in it's politics. That dissapeared during the Reagan years and we've had nothing but rightwing spin since then.

    With the advent of alternate new sources the AZ. Republic is dying a slow death, trying to stay profitable through on-line advertising.

    Anyway, I digress. I look forward to the days of returning progressiveness. Itr won't take long with the G.O.P. self destructing the way it is.

    • 3 votes
    #9.7 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:01 PM EST
    Reply
    jussmi1514

    Palin is one of those people who never seem to realize that some times the smartest thing you can do is to stop talking. Every day since she was selected to be the vice presidential candidate would be that time for her.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#10 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:43 AM EST
    Tom-VermillionOhio

    Let's try to look at this whole thing from a different perspective.

    Suppose that there are two 'households', one of 'Mr & Mrs Democrat' and the other 'Mr & Mrs Republican'. Both households, separately and apart, want to hold parties for family and friends AND those people who attend are allowed to bring whomever they wish as guests. All are welcome. Furthermore, both households will have one or more 'featured celebrity speakers' for entertainment and discussion. Parents are encouraged to bring their children.There will be things to keep them accupied and entertained while the parrents do their thing.

    Both households set up their own rules for what is considered appropriate behavior expected by those guests who attend. The only difference between the two 'get togethers' is one allows firearms and weapons of all kinds for 'show 'n tell' WHEREAS the other does strickly forbids all weapons of any kind. It is a free country isn't it?

    Conclusion: No one in my family would even consider nor be allowed to attend the Republican 'party'. Whereas, my family might consider attending the Democrat 'party'. However, if I were alone, a bonified nutcase with a terminal brain disease of some kind with nothing worthwhile to live for, I might consider attending the Republican 'party'depending upon the 'celebrity speaker'.

    The moral of this short 'story' is: Your 'household' rules or (lack there of) do not apply to my household rules and vice-versa. The air and the airwaves, thou we cannot 'see' those things can be poisonous as well. AND there is no control over who breathes those airs' content without round the clock monitoring of the toxic content.

    • 10 votes
    Reply#11 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:05 AM EST
    jabbausaf

    She still doesn't know the difference between a bullseye and crosshairs.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#12 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:13 AM EST
    Ggap

    Nor repudiate and refudiate.

    • 11 votes
    #12.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:16 AM EST
    SH-2000

    She knows the difference she a hunter right? She also knows that surveyors symbols to do resemble cross-hairs & that survey maps do not look like the map she used. She knows because its a lie & a lie has to be manufactured.

    • 10 votes
    #12.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:44 AM EST
    DEBEKI

    Bullseyes are for dart games and crosshairs are for guns....Should I send this via mail to Sarah with a set of darts and a dart board and challenge her to a game? I'm being serious here (well maybe just a little)

    I'm also a damn good shot - taught my sons how to shoot when they turned sixteen - my youngest son (age 31 now) shot his very first moose this season (750 lbs undressed) I got pictures and everything - I wonder if she would like those as well. Maybe not - I didn't get the "crosshair" picture before he shot it. btw - moose steak is awesome - a little dry as there is basically no fat - but still good.

    I'm surprised at how much attention this women gets from being the "out-doorsie" kind of gal. I was brought up in the woods and never dreamed that my ability to shoot a deer could get me that much attention - I even had (I'm an old fart now) great legs and a killer butt. I was a cheerleader and a basketball player (I played center - I was the only 6' girl in our school)... Can I get on a ballot somewhere - would the Palin supporters swing my way (well if I still looked the way I did 20 years ago)...Dang, I really missed my chance at fame and fortune - well maybe not - I can't promote putting crosshairs over my opponents picture. Too much conscience I guess. OH Well...back to the grind.

    This day-dream was brought to you by "Rubber Necking for Train Wrecks".

    Have a wonder day everyone...

    • 9 votes
    #12.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:18 PM EST
    DEBEKI

    Sorry - Have a wonderFUL day. or stick with the "wonder" and add a smile - makes people wonder what you're smiling about.

    • 7 votes
    #12.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:27 PM EST
    Reply
    agagnu

    Here's a long forgotten one, "silence is golden" and another,"all that glitters is not gold".

    As for cross hair target, lets see how foxfart will stink the airwaves with her accusations if all her future public screeching have placards of her with a big cross hair plastered on her face.

    • 10 votes
    Reply#13 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:18 AM EST
    DEBEKI

    Silence may be golden - duct tape is silver. If you can't win the gold, go for the silver.

    • 5 votes
    #13.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:05 PM EST
    Colorado Bubbie

    on a recent trip to alaska, we drove through wasilla and learned that their walmart has the LARGEST selection of duct tape anywhere. you can get it in any color or design. that is something to be proud of i would say....

    • 3 votes
    #13.2 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:34 AM EST
    Reply
    pinkcap

    Okay, she let us know what's not going to shut her up - critics. I just wish she would let us know what would shut her up.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#14 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:21 AM EST
    Tyler Durden-330839

    Has anyone related the Henry II/Beckett story to her yet?

    • 7 votes
    Reply#15 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:22 AM EST
    jmorris

    Tyler Durden-330839

    Has anyone related the Henry II/Beckett story to her yet?

    Sarah don't have no truck with that liberal elitist "history" the socialist left is so concerned about!

    • 6 votes
    #15.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:44 AM EST
    Reply
    KitKat51

    Palin was "interviewed" by Sean Hannity on Fox. That is not an interview, that's an Avon party. I'd like to see her attempt to defend herself to somebody like Anderson Cooper.

    • 15 votes
    Reply#16 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:28 AM EST
    jmorris

    somebody like Anderson Cooper

    Come on, Palin can't keep up with Katie Couric.

    • 10 votes
    #16.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:46 AM EST
    Reply
    Spriggs

    Keep talkin', Sarah babe!

    We're listenin' and dissin' and laughin', if you haven't noticed.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#17 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:29 AM EST
    Concerned75

    The hate continues. The protection of those who break the law continues. When we are against those who speak we attack. We use hate and personal attacks to take the focus off the issue at hand. One might note that two words that incite violence is "gun ban".

    Palin should not have to explain herself. Her comments are her comments. Those that do not understand them have a pre disposed stance. But it does not mean that resistance does not or should not exist.

    Now to blame Sarah for the Arizona shooting is rediculous. In effect we are declaring that the shooter was innocent. Blaming the weapon is jsut as rediculous. A firearm cannot now or ever do evil unless it is in the hand of one who is evil. Blame the right tool for the act.

    I do not see why any person in public office would not want law abiding citizens carrying firearms in their mist. It is free security. In the Arizona case if an armed citizen aware of surroundings had been in the area the shooting of innocent victims could have been stopped. It is that simple.

    Here again punishing the law abiding citizens is not the answer. We should punish law breakers. But we never choose to. We protect those entering our country illegally. We protect those who do terrorist acts towards us. We protect those tho rob, steal and kill. We blame law abiding citizens for their actions. ANd if one speaks out they are just a hater.

    It is time we blame the ones doing illegal acts. It is time we quit lowering our standards to allow everyone to fit in. It is time to call things what they are and quit hiding behind word games. Now if that incites violence then so be it. But you cannot hide from the truth under the threat of hurting someones feelings and causing them to react in a violent way. But be sure it is known that violence will be stopped by what ever force is necessary to end it. Then you have a safe and secure society that is free.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#18 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:31 AM EST
    trm2008

    It's also time to stop with the inflammatory rhetoric, dog whistle politics, and violent rhetoric. Is that all Palin has, or can she present reasoned arguments with substance? I think that is Palin's problem--she's too ignorant to argue the merits of policy so she resorts to hyperbole.

    • 19 votes
    #18.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:58 AM EST
    Kareem in my Coffee

    She has the right to spew.....and we have the right to laugh, refudiate and analyze.

    It's about freedom of choice. We can all choose our path.

    • 19 votes
    #18.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:45 AM EST
    jmorris

    I do not see why any person in public office would not want law abiding citizens carrying firearms in their mist.

    Maybe because of all the non-law abiding citizens? Because even law-abiding citizens can be bat@!$%#-crazy?

    It is free security. In the Arizona case if an armed citizen aware of surroundings had been in the area the shooting of innocent victims could have been stopped. It is that simple.

    So you didn't hear about the guy, who was armed, that almost shot the person who wrestled the gun away from the perp? When he ran up there the guy was holding the gun he had taken away and was almost shot by the "armed citizen".

    • 12 votes
    #18.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:54 AM EST
    jmorris

    Here's a link to the reference above.

    well links aren't working

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      #18.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:23 AM EST
      KitKat51

      Sarah Palin wouldn't know "the truth" if it jumped up and kissed her on the mouth.

      • 7 votes
      #18.5 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:42 AM EST
      Concerned75

      Inflammatory/violent rhetoric? Who is the rhetoric police anyway? Why is it if we have open, honest and passonate debate it is called rhetoric? Same old lines drawn with the same old defense. When one has no arguement they claim the other is just using rhetoric. The dodge the issue catch all...Rhetoric.

      We have the same old BS we have always had. It hasn't changed a bit. Just the names are changed.

      Well if becomes a choice between armed or not I am going to be on the armed side. One reason is very clear. Criminals do not pay attention the rules and will be armed anyway. It is my right (yes I said my right) to defend myself. The difference is I can do it legally.

      Sorry the links aren't working. Biut here is my take on that. Be aware of your surroundings. Be aware of your actions. In a high alert situation taking the gun away and holding in on someone is a good way to be suspected as an actor. Remember we can protect ourselves and others from immediate danger. Don't be foolish. Everyone has just a split second to react to save life. Do not deplay an action that can be interpreted as aggressive. The key word is defensive.

      • 3 votes
      #18.6 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:15 PM EST
      jmorris

      Sorry the links aren't working. Biut here is my take on that. Be aware of your surroundings. Be aware of your actions. In a high alert situation taking the gun away and holding in on someone is a good way to be suspected as an actor. Remember we can protect ourselves and others from immediate danger. Don't be foolish. Everyone has just a split second to react to save life. Do not deplay an action that can be interpreted as aggressive. The key word is defensive.

      Great points. I assume everyone who is allowed a Concealed Weapons Permit or is allowed to openly carry a gun in public is required to be trained and has to take some sort of test to determine if they are capable of such rational thought in a panic situation?

      I mean they don't just any old yahoo carry a gun now do they? /sarc

      Or would you place the blame on the innocent person who "acted unwisely" in disarming a crazed shooter over the person who shot someone by accident because they "looked dangerous" and he didn't know the situation before he came in guns blazing?

      • 1 vote
      #18.7 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:35 PM EST
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      babina

      Oh my gosh. This woman can't even see when she is being thrown under the bus. The republican­s want to win in 2012, they can't with her as their candidate but they can't alienate her most loyal supporters­.

      Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, aided and abetted by Hannity, threw her under the bus and the republican establishm­ent was driving. She completely fell for it and did herself in. No one can blame anyone but her, thereby keeping her supporters­, perhaps not happy about it, but keeping them just the same

      • 14 votes
      Reply#19 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:36 AM EST
      TheJonesGirl

      Palin speaks of debate, when she hides behind Facebook, Twitter and FOX "News" to make her statements. I'd love to see her debate, she wouldn't last 5 minutes.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#20 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 AM EST
      henry1966

      I'd love to see her debate, she wouldn't last 5 minutes.

      When's the last time she had a debate except at her house debating over hat to eat?

      • 8 votes
      #20.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST
      reddirthippy

      She insisted, rightly, that strong and honest — but respectful — political debate should not be stifled, and noted that it only seems like the right is asked to stifle its views

      I would like her to provide one example of her participating in honest but respectful debate. "say it ain't so Joe" was hardly respectful and avoiding the questions asked is not debate. Even going back to her televised gov debate she just went off on tangents.

      I think she is under the misconception that only expressing your views is debate.

      • 12 votes
      #20.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:03 AM EST
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      MikeBravo

      Oh well, the more she talks the deeper she digs the hole she is making for herself.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#21 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST
      keepfreepress

      It is the American people asking questions after the tragedy.

      The American people have every right to their own free speech. It isn't just the media asking these questions.

      It is a legitimate question when Palin approved the ad and named specific names, it is just a question about the appropriateness of the negative political ad most of the time it has never been an accusation.

      Since when did asking a question become an accusation? I don't think the few who did accuse were right to do so but the majority of people were simply questioning the ad since it did name the victim.

      If the ad had not specfically named the victim then there may not have been as much questioning of this ad.

      Palin also forgets that most people are calling for both sides to stop with the negative imagery in campaign ads yet still she goes right back to blaming and taking sides.

      She is still highly divisive and not a leader setting an example for all Americans.

      She has made this tragedy all about Sarah instead of all about questions regarding how to move our country forward to a better place and using better dialogue after this tragedy.

      No one is trying to "shut her up" that will never happen, she is making way too much money talking to find other employment.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#22 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:27 AM EST
      GG-537707

      "She has made this tragedy all about Sarah" Uh, excuse me, but the media did.....

      • 2 votes
      #22.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:53 PM EST
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      Randy McMurphy

      But enough about me. How do you feel about ME?

      • 17 votes
      Reply#23 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:31 AM EST
      trm2008

      Welcome to newsvine Sarah! LOL

      • 18 votes
      #23.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:47 AM EST
      GG-537707

      Yea, welcome to childish rants from folks on the vine who post lies and giberish.

      • 2 votes
      #23.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:54 PM EST
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      Jake319

      I knew a guy that knew another guy that told him that watch you employees they will steal from you. She is defiantly a contract employee of conservative ilk. She got off the reservation during the 2006 elections and stole the spotlight.. I still can't figure out why we need such personalities ?

      • 6 votes
      Reply#24 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:48 AM EST
      SH-2000

      I still can't figure out why we need such personalities ?

      $h1t sells well. Ask Walmart, Kmart & Jerry Springer.

      • 7 votes
      #24.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:09 PM EST
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      Moshe Murad

      wants to pursue a political career but has mediocre skills in relation to political ideology on USA and the rest of the world. Personally I follow her career in her last campaign and analyze her responses to reporters that leaves a lot to talk about. She can be opened in the political field but I recommend her as a must to consider at least 5 years, politics, history and world geography and then try launching from as politics in the USA.
      .

      • 1 vote
      Reply#25 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST
      SH-2000

      "Mediocre skills", you are more than kind describing it that way! I hardly think that she is ready to be elected on a town council. PTA, perhaps?

      • 5 votes
      #25.1 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:07 PM EST
      QuiteContrary-1278233

      SH: Not the PTA, please! Our children are about to be shortchanged on their future as it is if the GOP/Baggers have their way on education. Ms Palin would just fill the kids up on fattening, sugary treats while purity testing their parents!

      • 3 votes
      #25.2 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:43 PM EST
      SH-2000

      But at least moose meat sloppy Joe's will finally be on the lunch menu QC ; )

      • 3 votes
      #25.3 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:40 PM EST
      QuiteContrary-1278233

      True SH- as well as all of the Twinkies, Ding Dongs, Ho Hos and soda pop that the little darlings can swill down- damn the vegetables, they only promote good health and critical THINKING!

      • 4 votes
      #25.4 - Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:03 PM EST
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